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[27 Apr 2005|03:19pm]
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awww, poor 'lil community... [18 Nov 2004|08:28pm]

it seriously has died-ed horrid-id death-ed.


are we still fighting the equality cause out there?
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[04 Oct 2004|01:51am]

[ mood | bored ]


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[17 Mar 2004|06:52pm]

hello, i'm new to this community

alirght then, just to start things off:

I believe that it is not fair that male victims of domestic violence are not given the same support and resouces(shelters,helplines,etc)as women. i'm not saying that shelters for abused women are not neccasry, theyare neccasry. i just would like to see male dv victims treated with the same simpathy,support, and care as female victims.

because it is a problem that socity needs to address.

we cannot keep going on ignoiring it.

it must stop.
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[28 Feb 2004|07:14pm]
[ mood | weird ]

Hello neglected community.

I am sorry I have neglected you.

I love you really gender_rep <3

I can't think of anything to say really, about gender representation. But I am sure I saw an advert on TV that mad me angry the other day.

Does anyone else find most advertising to be gender stereotypical? By that, I of course mean for men too, who are expected to behave like the 'alpha male?'

Let me try and remember what it was and I will get back to you :)

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Interesting find! [28 Jan 2004|07:30pm]
[ mood | pleased ]

An English professor wrote the words,
"Woman without her man is nothing,"

on the blackboard and directed the students to punctuate it correctly.

The men wrote: "Woman, without her man, is nothing."

The women wrote: "Woman! Without her, man is nothing."

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Porn - is it always exploitative? [16 Jan 2004|12:05am]

Clare Short, the British MP, has tried to ban topless women on page 3.
For anyone unfamiliar with the English and their eccentricities, it has been customary for decades for certain newspapers to publish pictures of attractive young women in bikinis on the first inside page. When the lower market tabloids, like the daily Mirror started the trend, the young lady concerned wore a bikini. However, in the 70s, The Sun was the first to go topless.
Clare Short has tried to ban topless pics in the papers before, and had the tabloid press call her an ugly old bat and worse. What she looks like is immaterial, has she got a point?
I can see that women will object if they see men crudely treating women as peices of meat, but I sense that thirty years ago, womenwere more sensitive about it. These days, women can take the initiative in sexual relationships, are used to saaying what they want and more sure of getting it. there is also more possibility for women to achieve, to feel sucessfull, whereas in the 70s women found it hard to be taken seriously as managers, train drivers, airline pilots , whatever. they resented being solely sex objects, and rightly so.
Women today, I feel, can be; and are appreciated more on thier own terms.
They have always wanted to be desired, but to be in control and secure in the fact that they would not be abused in any way.
In the 70s, that was not there, but I feel women are more comfortable these days with pics naked women about. I recall Germaine Greer appearing naked in newspapers, and thinking ... What???
The argument comes up that porn exploits women. And yet there are magazines aimed at lesbians, there are the traditional 'chick lit' like Mills and Boon and films about women like Bridget Jones that seem to be the fmale equivalent of the the pinup on page 3.
Mr. Darcey is a female fantasy figure. A wealthy, well hung fit bloke who does not smoke, or drink, or waste money backing horses. And he has waited this long for the heroine to pop up without trying to hump one of the parlourmaids! Come off it, he is about as realistically true to life as the silicone chests you see on page 3. But this is harmless entertainment, so why not?
Most erotic material aimed at a female audience does require reading skills. Perhaps this is laudable, but thst isn't the point. I am nothing like Darcy in looks, or temperament, or even estate. Should I complain that men are being exploited, seen as meal tickets? That society is encouraging unrealistic expectations among impressionable young womn and forcing me to try and live up to them?
Or have we got to the stage where we can laugh at each other's quirks and accept them? Cross posted from Happy Feminists.
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discussion points... [05 Jan 2004|10:41am]
So, things have been a little slow over christmas and what not, but here were the added questions...

Do you think that women should be eligible for drafting/conscription?

What role would the people in this community like to see for men in society, given that they comprise 50% of the population & won't go away?

In your opinion, is there a difference between sex and gender?

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[28 Dec 2003|07:38pm]

[ mood | busy ]

I'm sorry for the post-after-post. I just noticed these questions and figured I'd answer them.

1) Do you have a stance? Feminism for example.

I'm very much a feminist. I believe that everyone was created equal and therefore should be treated that way. I'm disgusted by the way a lot of things are run and are going.

2) How do you think gender effects our lives?

Gender effects our lives in a huge way, and it usually is not very good. People are stereotyped by their gender, discriminated based on their gender, and hired based on their gender. Although there are obvious differences, we are still very much the same and should be treated in such a way that shows we all believe and accept that.

3) By your definition of equality, is society equal?

Society is not equal. I could go on for a while, but one specific thing has really angered me lately. NHS (National Honor Society) will not admit any woman who is pregnant to join their "elite club". However, hands full of men join their club who have gotten these women pregnant. The women are punished for having "proof" that they have had sex? and men who don't have obvious proof, but do, don't get punished for sex?

4) Do you think we should be equal?

Of course we should be equal! Look at us! No man is better than any woman. Look at all the contributions women have made, and yet no one wants to recognize them.

5) What do you expect from this community, if anything?

From this community I hope to learn new things about the equality battle and ideas on how I can make a difference.

6) Do you like the lay out? (hehe)

I do. My great aunts were those kind women. I love that picture.

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[28 Dec 2003|07:35pm]

Hello there. I found this community through another one. I love reading all of your posts, they're very interesting and very informative. Only about a year or two ago did I become aware of all that was going on (yea...i'm a little young) and I'd really like to get more involved.
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Anyone read Elaine Morgan's Descent of Woman? [21 Dec 2003|12:01am]


For me, one of the most interesting books of the 70's was Elaine Morgan's work ' The Descent of Woman'.

In it , she argues that humans became the shape , and the species we are today because we spent a lot of time in an aquatic environment. she also argues that it was our child rearing habits, rather that our hunting skills that made us 'human'.

'Forget  "Man the Hunter" as an explanation for our big brains and language skills and all the other stuff that makes us interesting. Look instead at " Woman the Home maker" ' she argues, everything from our  courtship rituals to our political systems can be traced to our  behaviour as primates.

I have to confess that I find her very persuasive, and think her book is brilliant. I love her theories, her style of prose, her sense of humour and wonder if anyone else has read the book and has anything to say on it...

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A question.. [19 Dec 2003|05:18am]

[ mood | curious ]

Not sure if this belongs here or not, but what the blazes, it's a stereotype.

Why do so many people think bisexuals are whores? The reason I ask is because I've noticed that even among those who don't have a problem with bisexuality or homosexuality, many of the people who knew I was bi warned me not to become a slut (or said something to the extent behind my back), and one of my bi friends is constantly refered to as 'loose', even by one of his boyfriend's best friends (who should know better). Has anyone else noticed this stereotype, or is it just a big thing in my area?

And one other thing I've noticed that's probably really off-topic.. why will some lesbian/gay men not date bisexuals? What do they have against them?

Anywho, if I have offended, think but of this and all is mended.. I'm a newbie to this club.

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Feminism- is it already outdated? [19 Dec 2003|07:57am]

As someone who is over 45, I can remember when Germaine Greer first wrote 'The Female Eunuch'. I have read it myself, and also 'The war Against Women' by Marylnn French.
I think I would say that my only criticism of the 2 books is that they fail to address a wider issue. They rightly point out that the system exploits and attacks females, but fails to recognise that the system also exploits and attacks males.
I was born in England in 1956. It was a time & place when the law would not allow women to have credit on their own name, or get equal pay for doing a job a man did, and if a woman was hit on the street by a stranger, the law would intervene. If, however, the same woman was beaten up, in her own home by her own husband, unless he actually killed her the law would do nothing. A policeman could not intervene if he wanted to, except to say that the neighbours were complaining about the noise, so keep it down.
I do not know this from historic research, I know it from personal experience. My dad was an alchoholic, and a wife beater. Go figure!!!
The point is that Greer and her acolytes had a ready made army of supporters who would grow up, get jobs and voting cards, and be a natural constiuancy in society for social change.
Did I want to grow up Like my dad, and perpetuate the system he flourished in, and sustain its values? In a word, NO!!!
And yet Feminism, which boldly bust forth with so much promise, first said that It was going into a huddle. Social change to benifit women was to be done in all female groups, to exclude the contamination of men.
So what happened? The whole movement was hijacked by those who felt that "All men were Bastards" These people insisted that there was no difference between consensual sex and rape. Any sexual relationship between a man and a woman was exploiting her and that women should all become lesbians, as this was the only position of integrity.
Not only did this lose any male support for the feminist ideology, it lost a lot of female followers too.
Feminism has failed to address BIG issues. What about boys born to violent fathers? what about boys born to Feminist mothers? How should these be treated from a feminist perspective?
Hard core feminists refused to work with others who were not of thier ilk. It was Environmentalists, Trade Unionists and Socialists who did the big stuff in the 70s, not the Fems who sulked in their all female think tanks, only to emerge with pontifications that any reasonable person would reject, regardless of their gender.
In the UK, we got legislation on equal pay, we got environmental protection and lots more. It is eco activists like me who push for change in the 3rd World, not hard line femsinists.
Now that a lot of rich women do their daddies jobs, Greer has decided it's a good idea to appear naked in a newspaper, all her dreams fullfilled. Feminists are saying that 'all men are wimps or bastards' because the earlier version would not hold water. Meanwhile, real activists continue to fight for better conditions for people of both sexes around the globe. People that Greer is happy to forget. It is time that Feminism was equated with Stalinism and dumped in the dustbin of History. Females do not possess the sole right to walk on the moral high ground. Activism lives, but Feminism is a busted flush. We need a broader agenda that treats all children seriously, all people seriously, instead of assigning 50% of us with ridiculous and demeaning labels. Ghandi was a man. Wimp or bastard? Feminism is to serious to leave it to women.
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[19 Dec 2003|12:11am]

Has anyone got any idea why I can't get to answer the previous comment? Does anyone know why some of the replies to previous post are not showing?
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The beginning? [18 Dec 2003|02:28am]
[ mood | content ]


Quite a few members already, an excellent start :) I hope this community keeps active, I am always coming across communities which are funky but nobody bothers posting anymore. So please, get post-happy!

So I guess I am going to start with a few questions, (which I will answer too!) just so we can get to know each other a little bit...

1) Do you have a stance? Feminism for example.
2) How do you think gender effects our lives?
3) By your definition of equality, is society equal?
4) Do you think we should be equal?
5) What do you expect from this community, if anything?
6) Do you like the lay out? (hehe)
7) Add a question....
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Well here we are... [17 Dec 2003|08:00pm]
[ mood | hopeful ]

Here we go then, welcome to gender_rep


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